I hate to be a Debbie Downer but do the votes matter any more?
Under the current election system, it's not who votes but who counts the votes that matters. And for the most part, they count the vote. As the last election proved, they (UNIPARTY democRATS and UNIPARTY republicans) can do so fraudulently and get away with it, thanks to their control of the media, courts and election system.
Furthermore, as the last election proved ... it's not votes that matter ... it's ballots. Using covid as the excuse, the UNIPARTY made it possible for ballots to be introduced into the count anonymously at drop boxes. They used that to introduce scads of bogus ballots and then used the courts to keep them from being contested. And even though the covid excuse is gone, the drop boxes remain.
Likewise, they used electronic voting machines to cheat in 2020 and their use will likely be greater in 2024. Why we continue to use electronic voting machines, when they haven't proven to be more accurate or faster in getting the results out, is understandable only in the context that they (the UNIPARTY) plans to cheat using them again.
We also continue to be one of or possibly the only country in the word that doesn't require ID to vote. The excuse used for that ... that blacks don't have government ID ... is a LIE. Again, the only explanation for that continuing to be the case is that the UNIPARTY wants to be able to cheat.
Overall, little has changed in the election system since the last election and this is in large part because UNIPARTY republicans, who supported the cheating against Trump, have prevented anything from being done to fix the election system. And the courts just say we have no standing.
So I'm not as confident about the 2024 election, even though, I agree ... we have the numbers.
I stick by my statement--we have the votes. But you're right, the election can be rigged. It can be rigged in a thousand different and diabolical ways.
But we have the votes. Getting those votes counted, well, that's another matter for another day.
Do you think that it's possible to make the election "too big to rig"?
I hope you're not planning to sit out the vote... I'm never confident in politics, I think we need to do everything we can.
BTW, I'd like voter ID, paper ballots, signature verification, and a thumb print. One-day in-person voting. No machines. All voting count rooms monitored by video and a multitude of officials who are allowed to use cameras, too. Vote by mail only allowed in extreme situations. Severe penalties for messing with the election, even one ballot, and by that I mean mandatory jail or prison.
"Do you think that it's possible to make the election 'too big to rig'?"
No. How much bigger can it be then it was in 2020?
"I hope you're not planning to sit out the vote"
Of course I'll vote. I'm just saying what I tried to tell the folks at Conservative Treehouse before they decided to dump me from their platform ... little has been done to prevent another round of cheating in 2024. I repeated challenged folks to tell me what had been done and the response was crickets. They couldn't dispute that statement, and still can't. I asked them what we'd do if the UNIPARTY did cheat again. The response I got was more hopium. No one wanted to talk about the one tool that the Founders gave us for precisely this situation. In fact, mentioning that is part of what got me thrown off the forum. And your wish list is precisely what I said we should demand be put in place BEFORE this election. That's the other part that got me tossed.
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"And if we have the numbers … we have the votes."
I hate to be a Debbie Downer but do the votes matter any more?
Under the current election system, it's not who votes but who counts the votes that matters. And for the most part, they count the vote. As the last election proved, they (UNIPARTY democRATS and UNIPARTY republicans) can do so fraudulently and get away with it, thanks to their control of the media, courts and election system.
Furthermore, as the last election proved ... it's not votes that matter ... it's ballots. Using covid as the excuse, the UNIPARTY made it possible for ballots to be introduced into the count anonymously at drop boxes. They used that to introduce scads of bogus ballots and then used the courts to keep them from being contested. And even though the covid excuse is gone, the drop boxes remain.
Likewise, they used electronic voting machines to cheat in 2020 and their use will likely be greater in 2024. Why we continue to use electronic voting machines, when they haven't proven to be more accurate or faster in getting the results out, is understandable only in the context that they (the UNIPARTY) plans to cheat using them again.
We also continue to be one of or possibly the only country in the word that doesn't require ID to vote. The excuse used for that ... that blacks don't have government ID ... is a LIE. Again, the only explanation for that continuing to be the case is that the UNIPARTY wants to be able to cheat.
Overall, little has changed in the election system since the last election and this is in large part because UNIPARTY republicans, who supported the cheating against Trump, have prevented anything from being done to fix the election system. And the courts just say we have no standing.
So I'm not as confident about the 2024 election, even though, I agree ... we have the numbers.
I stick by my statement--we have the votes. But you're right, the election can be rigged. It can be rigged in a thousand different and diabolical ways.
But we have the votes. Getting those votes counted, well, that's another matter for another day.
Do you think that it's possible to make the election "too big to rig"?
I hope you're not planning to sit out the vote... I'm never confident in politics, I think we need to do everything we can.
BTW, I'd like voter ID, paper ballots, signature verification, and a thumb print. One-day in-person voting. No machines. All voting count rooms monitored by video and a multitude of officials who are allowed to use cameras, too. Vote by mail only allowed in extreme situations. Severe penalties for messing with the election, even one ballot, and by that I mean mandatory jail or prison.
"Do you think that it's possible to make the election 'too big to rig'?"
No. How much bigger can it be then it was in 2020?
"I hope you're not planning to sit out the vote"
Of course I'll vote. I'm just saying what I tried to tell the folks at Conservative Treehouse before they decided to dump me from their platform ... little has been done to prevent another round of cheating in 2024. I repeated challenged folks to tell me what had been done and the response was crickets. They couldn't dispute that statement, and still can't. I asked them what we'd do if the UNIPARTY did cheat again. The response I got was more hopium. No one wanted to talk about the one tool that the Founders gave us for precisely this situation. In fact, mentioning that is part of what got me thrown off the forum. And your wish list is precisely what I said we should demand be put in place BEFORE this election. That's the other part that got me tossed.